183 ( +1 | -1 ) Sicilian Pelikan Question:I have played the Pelikan/Sveshnikov extensively with many good results. However, one line that I believed to be better for black has always troubled me! The line : 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e5 6.Nd-b5 d6 7.Bg5 a6 8.Na3 b5 9.Bxf6 gxf6 10.Nd5 f5 11.Bd3 Be6 12.O-O Bxd5 13.exd5 Ne7 14.Nxb5 Bg7 15.Nc3 e4 16.Bc4
I used to think that 14.Nxb5 gave black a slight edge or at least equality, and white's way to go was 14.c3. However, dominickmazzotta kept playing this line against me and won all 3-4 games we had in this variation!! I just don't understand (though again there is a huge rating difference between him and me ;-) ).
One recent game with him in this line (me black of course) continued : 14.Nxb5 Bg7 15.Nc3 e4 16.Bc4 Ng6 17.Qh5 Bxc3 18.bxc3 Qf6 19.Qh6 Rg8 20.Ra-e1 Ke7 21.Re-b1 Ra7 22.Rb6 Qh4 23.Qe3 Rc7 24.g3 Qh3 and at this point I was sitting happily think this could be my first win against Dom or I AT LEAST have a draw. Then the master came up with 25.Rf-b1!! a move I did not anticipate at all but realised soon after that I was toast!! Anyway, the game continued 25...Ne5 26.Bf1 Qh5 27.Be2 Qh3 28.Rxa6 Rg6 29.Ra8 Kf6 30.Rd8 Kg7 31.Rb-b8 and I resigned.
My first question, where did I go wrong in this game?
My more important question, for 12.0-0, is there something else that black can play? I don't wish to play 10....Bg7. I prefer playing the immediate 10....f5 as against the 12.0-0 line I play 12....Rg8 and not Bg7. After this game, I think I tried 12.0-0 Rg8?! in my next game with Dom, but lost again!! So in my current game, I played 10....Bg7 :-(. Now we are in a very double edged position but I believe he has the edge. Even if I win this game with 10.....Bg7 (like that is going to happen when I haven't one a single game in over 30 games with him ;) ), I still wish to play 10....f5 from my next game again. So, any Pelikan player or Top player, please advice something against the 12.0-0 line.
119 ( +1 | -1 ) Qh6 new moveThis looks like a new move to me - I cannot find it in books or dbf's. Many other options for white's 19th move are considered and none seems to give him much. I see the point of the move - and the game looked well-played. Of course you can also vary earlier - In the Yakovich book "The Complete Sveshnikov Sicilian"- he claims 16. .. Ng6 is best - but the lines given against 16. ...Qa5 don't appear to give white much. In "The Sveshnikov Sicilian" *(Krasenkov), he preferred Qa5 (although he also thought Ng6 was fine). There might be chances later - I like Rg8 but are you sure Ke7 is best? I looked a little at Qh4 - not to the extent a player would in a serious game - it looks to me like black has reasonable compensation with or without queens. One line I looked at ran 21. Qe3 Ne5 22.Be2 Rg6 23.Reb1 (for instance - and there are lots of other choices for both) - it looks like an interesting typical sort of Sveshnikov. I think that after Rg6 black should play for (at the appropriate time) Kf8 instead of Ke7. There are also lines where black can give up the a pawn to activate the queen rook (playing Rc8, Rc4) if white decides to win the a pawn black can hope the game will not be decided in the endgame. Just some ideas.
181 ( +1 | -1 ) perhaps this will helpI've been playing the Sveshnikov for some time but have only encountered this line once and I had the white pieces. here is the game taken from my database if nothing else it will give you more info on the line.
95 ( +1 | -1 ) I agree with Chris ...20 .. Ke7 doesn't look ideal to me, 20. ... Qh4 seems to be the better move though I don't play the variation with 10. ... f5. I agree that the King should move to g7 via f8 but the position isn't easy to play for black.
19. Qh6 has been played OTB before. Text move here 19. ... Qxc3 20. Bb3 and now diffeent fom the match perhaps Ke7 is possible - 21. Rab1 Rhg8 22. Ba4 Rb8 ~ looks better to me than 19. ... Rg8.
22 ( +1 | -1 ) thanks everyoneWent though all this analysis carefully. Yeah, maybe I should try something else instead of ....Bxd5 lines. And yes, now I realise, Ke7 was indeed amistake in this game. Thanks again for the time and effort